Re: Theoretical woodworking
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:28 pm
Hi Francois
Thanks a lot for your time, I forgot to click the "notify me when a reply is posted" and the weekend went through. Indeed at first look the drawings seem really complex... thanks a lot for the scans, I will take a detailed look tomorrow morning. Maybe you would like to use dropbox? however I would not like to abuse of your patience, I know how long it takes to scan a book.
I don't know anything of carpentry in spanish. I think a mitre is called "inglete" and wood is madera, that's pretty much my knowledge of it. I was talking with my dad (he studied architecture) and they didn't teach this kind of drawing in his university back in the day. That may explain the poor chilean architecture. I'm learning the french terms with the charpente en bois, while at the same time getting the english translations from google since I don't know them either — a big, big mess.
Which brings me to the following, from the few books I've seen english draw just a line per piece while frenchies draw the whole thing (or seems so, they draw definitely more) and make it even more complicated. Is that so or just my limited sample/understanding?
Thanks for moving the post Chris, I didn't know where to put it. And hopefully you don't take it bad, I looked into the samples of your books and the contents seemed either too basic (the math part) or extremely complex and beyond my abilities (the rest of them). I'm not particularly interested in the hopper, but rather on how to understand the (making of the) drawings, like fig. 316. It seems to my that when you see those arc you are doing some rotations in the 3D space and projecting them into the plan, and I bet there is an algorithm for that, but haven't seen anywhere that explained. Like I can follow the explanation of the drawing but I miss the "why", and thus I cannot make one by myself. Most of the books I've seen seem to give you only recipes of how to do something, and I get the impression that they were written for people who already knew drawing, which is totally not my case.
I went back to "Wood joints in classical japanese architecture" today and understood the lay out for the hip rafter joint, the japanese way of drawing appears way clearer after reading some french. Do french drawings also have the joinery on them? I could only identify the joint between the hip and the boss but not much else. How much is it left to interpretation?
Thanks again for all the feedback, it's a really nice subject, if only a bit obscure at the beginning.
On a funny note, I was walking by graz today and with 3 roofs and some moulded towers you are pretty much able to reproduce the whole skyline of the city.
Thanks a lot for your time, I forgot to click the "notify me when a reply is posted" and the weekend went through. Indeed at first look the drawings seem really complex... thanks a lot for the scans, I will take a detailed look tomorrow morning. Maybe you would like to use dropbox? however I would not like to abuse of your patience, I know how long it takes to scan a book.
I don't know anything of carpentry in spanish. I think a mitre is called "inglete" and wood is madera, that's pretty much my knowledge of it. I was talking with my dad (he studied architecture) and they didn't teach this kind of drawing in his university back in the day. That may explain the poor chilean architecture. I'm learning the french terms with the charpente en bois, while at the same time getting the english translations from google since I don't know them either — a big, big mess.
Which brings me to the following, from the few books I've seen english draw just a line per piece while frenchies draw the whole thing (or seems so, they draw definitely more) and make it even more complicated. Is that so or just my limited sample/understanding?
Thanks for moving the post Chris, I didn't know where to put it. And hopefully you don't take it bad, I looked into the samples of your books and the contents seemed either too basic (the math part) or extremely complex and beyond my abilities (the rest of them). I'm not particularly interested in the hopper, but rather on how to understand the (making of the) drawings, like fig. 316. It seems to my that when you see those arc you are doing some rotations in the 3D space and projecting them into the plan, and I bet there is an algorithm for that, but haven't seen anywhere that explained. Like I can follow the explanation of the drawing but I miss the "why", and thus I cannot make one by myself. Most of the books I've seen seem to give you only recipes of how to do something, and I get the impression that they were written for people who already knew drawing, which is totally not my case.
I went back to "Wood joints in classical japanese architecture" today and understood the lay out for the hip rafter joint, the japanese way of drawing appears way clearer after reading some french. Do french drawings also have the joinery on them? I could only identify the joint between the hip and the boss but not much else. How much is it left to interpretation?
Thanks again for all the feedback, it's a really nice subject, if only a bit obscure at the beginning.
On a funny note, I was walking by graz today and with 3 roofs and some moulded towers you are pretty much able to reproduce the whole skyline of the city.