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Bale bengong variation

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:50 pm
by AntoineLaMothe
Hi to all,

first post here... I've been reading a lot, though!

I started timber frame projects a few years ago and 2014 has been my first as a timber framer ONLY. I'm far from making enough money, but I guess I can't complain, doing what I want to do. I only make exterior buildings such as pavillons, gates or gazebos, no residential (yet). I'm into the japanese way of working wood, joinery and tools wise. As far as design, well for now I've been doing what my few customers wanted, so nothing very fancy yet... except for that last project, wich is a northern/japanese variation of the Bale Bengongs they have in Bali. It's all eastern white cedar, since it's the best thing I can get that grows around here for outside work. All of that was handplaned, and it was a mess to do, with all these knots and wild grain. You can only get small timbers from EWC, so you have to deal with all the imperfections you can imagine... This is the kind of project I would love to do again and again, since it's such a simple structure that give me the feeling the design quality hides in details I'm far from fully getting yet. Tell me what you think!
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I'm working on plans for my own house, and will probably be asking some questions regarding roof structure, so I though I'd introduce myself properly before just stealing all of your knowledge :D

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:12 pm
by Brian
Very nice work, gorgeous!

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:44 pm
by Steve
Very nice, what does it measure?

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:59 pm
by Chris Pyle
Very well done. I don't have a trained eye like many on the board but that looks very well executed. I'd be extremely proud to show others that work.

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:12 pm
by AntoineLaMothe
Thank you for the encouragements.

The posts form a square of 8'6'' center to center, and there's a 20'' ish overhang. The thing is a bit high, the floor on the front side standing at more than 3 feet. We'll do some landscaping next spring in order to hide the metal footings and to better integrate the structure.

The execution is good at some places but too often gaps appear. Having to work with irregular posts like that did not help, and the problems I met while planing brought more trouble in joinery as the pieces where too irregular at some places. And these planing problems came mostly from my sharpening problems... :lol: That will need another thread...!

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:01 am
by Paul Atzenweiler
I looks very nice. A very nice feather in your hat.

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:56 am
by Chris Hall
I think that is very well done indeed. It misses on some details as far as emulating Japanese construction, though I know it is also borrowing from the Balinese vernacular, which I am far less familiar with. Given it is your first timber frame project it is excellent work. Kudos!

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:56 am
by AntoineLaMothe
Thanks Chris. I'm looking forward to go deeper into japanese structures. This one is a ''fake'' on a few points, like the curve that is not into the frame but more into the finishing, and I'm sure you noticed quickly. Plus, it's really only inspirational: the proportions and little carvings and curve profile are purely intuitive design made with the client, they don't come from serious research. I got to clarify though that it is not my first timber frame project... maybe it wasn't clear in the first post, but this is my first ''nicer'' project (hand planed, curved roof, round posts, shingles...etc.). I think I have made 6 or 7 small builds overall.

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:09 pm
by Chris Hall
Still, great job!

Re: Bale bengong variation

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:01 pm
by Dennis
It's an attractive structure, humble and also from a distance appears done with care.