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Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:33 pm
by Paul Atzenweiler
Dennis just tell me how furniture is supposed to look and I will only build it that way from now on.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:16 pm
by Brian
Just layed out this morning and have been cutting some quad through wedged tenons. They will be cut flush as the top is a work surface.

Haven't decided if I will do contrasting wedges.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:28 pm
by Paul Atzenweiler
I hope you post pictures!!

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:22 pm
by Dennis
Paul, I generally know how furniture is supposed to look to me. For yourself, you can decide, but there are many many books where the author's intention is to help one develop a sense about it, lesser analysing the fine details than things like balance and proportion. Traditional work seems a good place to study, there being so many examples of great and lesser so . Designs may be period, but they still can have a lot to say. How one looks at things allows for an interesting discussion, and can make for a life long pursuit.

Personally, I've never been offended when people suggested ways of changing a design for the better to me, figuring that it is a deep complex subject where input might make for something helpful, and accepting or rejecting advice is my prerogative. I may not respect the advice, but I do the subject. Ultimately making the decision about it lies with what I want to do.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:19 pm
by Paul Atzenweiler
I like your furniture. I tend to forget that the way I speak sometimes doesn't translate into written word. I have been told I have a very dry sense of humor, and feel my last comment could be taken as "unpleasant" when it was not the intent. I should have my wife proof read my entries.
I have a tenonsy to type as I think - that was a woodworking pun.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:49 pm
by Dennis
Thanks, and no problem, Paul, I wasn't sure, and I could see my ruminations striking as being a little pushy.

I recall a juried show in Northern California, for furniture, but one of the entries was a desk made by a boat builder, a very fine one that has a school himself. Quite nicely done, but on the underside of the desk he had left a bunch of pencil lines. The judges didn't like that, or at least one didn't, but when told that his desk could be accepted for the show if he simply spent a minute with an eraser, he had a major problem with the requirement, and ended up withdrawing from the event. I think that to a boat builder, pencil marks are of little concern, but for high end furniture being exhibited, I'd be hard pressed to decide if visible on the underside was a concern or not. Just to be safe, i erase them. Objective or subjective can be pretty confusing.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:05 am
by Chris Hall
You guys are a couple of wildcats, that's for sure.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:53 am
by Paul Atzenweiler
I am currently en route to Australia to buy Dennis a beer and to give him a hug.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:03 am
by Chris Hall
You'll be searching Australia for a good long while. Dennis lives in Japan.

Re: Makin' Trays

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:26 am
by Dennis
How about Australian beer in Japan? 'Murray's Wild Thing' is supposed to be very good. Hugs are ok, but shake the sawdust off first.